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LLMs won't break symmetric crypto

LLMs won't break symmetric crypto

bfswa.blog

August 6, 2026

6 min read

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Summary

Anthropic's LLM Claude Mythos has discovered key-recovery attacks on HAWK, a post-quantum signature scheme candidate. While the attack is impractical for most versions of HAWK, it significantly reduces the security of the toy version HAWK-256, which has 64-bit security that is nearly breakable.

Key Takeaways

  • Anthropic's LLM Claude Mythos discovered a key-recovery attack on the HAWK post-quantum signature scheme, reducing its security level from 128 bits to at most 108 bits.
  • An improved key-recovery attack on 7-round AES-128 was found, but it poses no threat to the full 10-round AES-128 implementation.
  • LLMs are expected to identify errors in cryptanalytic attacks' complexity estimates and in security proofs, as demonstrated by finding issues in EUROCRYPT 2026 papers.
  • The article asserts that LLMs will not break established symmetric cryptographic schemes like AES, ChaCha, and SHA-3 due to their complex and robust design.
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Community Sentiment

Mixed

Positives

  • LLMs are poised to supercharge math research, which could lead to breakthroughs that challenge traditional encryption methods — the potential for innovation is enormous.
  • LLMs might excel at tedious testing and reasoning tasks in cryptography, where human effort has struggled, suggesting a new era of discovery in security research.
  • Recent examples show LLMs identifying basic bugs in encryption libraries that humans overlooked, proving their utility in enhancing crypto implementations.

Concerns

  • Skeptics argue that saying LLMs will never break symmetric crypto is overly confident; the effort required is substantial, but past successes in math challenges suggest it's possible.
  • Critics point out that the foundational assumptions about the impossibility of reversing cryptographic calculations are shaky, with no guarantees against future breakthroughs.
  • Many believe that the extensive human effort in breaking encryption algorithms has yet to yield a viable attack, casting doubt on the notion that LLMs will easily succeed.

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