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Do transformers need three projections? Systematic study of QKV variants

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Transformers utilize a query, key, and value (QKV) attention formulation that is crucial for AI tasks. The study investigates the individual contributions of these three projections and the effects of omitting any of them.

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  • Praise: The exploration of QKV variants through ablation studies is valuable, as it can lead to insights on model simplifications that may benefit hardware-constrained environments.
  • Praise: The discussion around the correlation between performance and sequence lengths for the Q-K=V model highlights important considerations for future research in transformer architectures.
  • Concern: The limited training data of 10B tokens for a 1.2B model raises concerns about the generalizability of the findings, especially when compared to modern models trained on significantly larger datasets.
  • Concern: Confusing notation in the paper detracts from the clarity of the research, potentially hindering understanding and application of the proposed concepts.